Find Your Purpose

How much are you focused on your own personal and professional development?

How much do you pay attention to your own needs when you’re looking at how you may need to grow? Are you actively investing in training, programs, self-care, and more to focus on what you need or are you letting the world tell you what to be doing next?

If you’re not focused on what you need to know, you’re going to lose many opportunities and more.

On this episode, I sit down with Greg Chapman, where we talk about personal and professional development and some of the ways that Greg has come to recognize what it was that he needed to focus on as he transitioned from one career to another in the midst of a global pandemic.

In this new role, Greg is focused on the adaptogenic mushroom industry where he believes that the supplements he has been taking have been helping give him more focus among other benefits. Of course, should you wish to explore the mushrooms yourself, please consult with your own healthcare provider before undertaking any supplement.  

To help you with learning more about the mushrooms if you’d like to get started, go to www.divanamushrooms.com and use promo code MOJO4LIFE to get 25% off your first order.

About Greg: Greg Chapman has a background in small business development, helping many to start and grow their own businesses. For the last couple of years, Greg has been building a business of his own in the adaptogenic mushroom industry. Through this company, Greg educates and helps his clients to reach their best selves from the inside out.

Connect with Greg on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, and on the web at https://www.divanamushrooms.com

Transcript (auto-generated; may contain errors):

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business. On today’s program, we’re going to be talking about personal development. To a lot of people personal development is one of those ideas that yes, I’ll, do it at some point when I can or it’s one of those ideas that

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I am constantly invested in the idea of developing my skills.

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Whether it’s Personally or Professionally, and it really becomes an important part of who they are.

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And if you look at the really successful Entrepreneurs, they are the ones that are always investing in their own personal and professional development, and it is because they understand what it can do for you that really makes the difference, and so I have a great guest.

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On the show today who’s going to be helping us, understand more in terms of a personal development.

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How so we can get into this conversation. Know what it means to really invest in our personal development and go from there but before I bring my guest on, let me tell you a little bit about him Greg Chapman has a background in small business development.

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Helping many to start and grow their own businesses, for the last couple of Years.

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Greg has been building a business of his own in the Adaptogenic Mushroom industry through his company, Greg educates and help it helps his clients to reach their best selves from the inside out. Greg thank you so much for being on the show

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Hi, Jennifer, thank you so much for having me. It’s been a while since we’ve seen each other.

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I think, probably pre quarantine or maybe right at the beginning. we were able to meet yeah

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During lockdown. Yes, going way back to 2020, when we first spoke, it’s quite the time

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Yeah, it is. I remember I just switched over to starting to do a Live

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Podcast I was doing live streaming podcasts on. I think Facebook, as Opposed to you know, recording them and dropping them online, because that was where all the People were everyone was just hanging out, on Facebook, it was just so interesting Switching Over to that industry.

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Without a question, when you were doing those shows and trying to really get the right people, and again that goes to the idea of personal development, too, because you are trying to help your listeners have an idea what it meant to actually be learning, something, to be developing in themselves, to try and really get that growth.

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And experience, which was might be time and I mean, you know, 2 and a half give or take years ago.

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Now, I mean, that’s really you know, quite some time ago.

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Yeah, I mean, it’s kind of funny. It feels like, I mean, it’s been to and a half years.

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But it’s almost Feels like we’re just getting back to where we were before so it’s almost like no time has passed in a weird. Way.

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You know. It’s like I feel it was just yesterday. We were doing.

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These podcasts. We’re sharing business stories, swapping techniques, and Life hacks and all of that, and then just kind of went Away, for a while, I think some of the Bigger Names Stayed up, you know, it has had your Gary Vaynerchuk, and all your little online, Media mobile.

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and everything, but like your average, small business person, just kind of stopped doing podcast stop Reaching Out, wasn’t really able to spend the time to be reaching out into the community, and learning, and growing it was kind of an all hands on deck just trying to keep things, up, flow and make sure, that not only I mean, a if

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they were going to be able to keep a business, but be like the house over their head.

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You know. So it’s kind of like we’re just getting back to a point where we’re all kind of in a growth

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state, again, where we’re comfortable, like we’re able to start putting money into marketing so I know it, kind of when those shutdowns happen like the first time they let up all business started again, and then I showed it down again, and then it opened up and then less people put their heads out and shut

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Down again, and then it shut down a third time, and everyone just kind of was like, all right, you know what we’re gonna have to buckle in and stay tight.

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And I feel like, yeah, it’s been almost 2 years.

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Now since that last lockdown and people are just starting to come out again.

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So it’s great

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It is definitely great to see businesses, doing that. But one of the things if you’re listening that you do want to be paying attention to that you may have survived the pandemic but you want to make sure that you’re, going to be around tomorrow too.

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And you need to be paying attention to profit in terms of where you are in your business, and if you’ve been listening to me for any period of time, you know that that’s one of the areas that I really have been stressing especially of late to focus more on the profit revenue, feeds, are

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each ego, profit, fees, or family, and it’s something that you really need to be thinking about in your own life, in your own business, from what you’re doing but greg, let’s kind, of circle back, to development.

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And we’ll come back to the Marketing and the Covid stories.

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After. But we talk about the personal development and personal development takes a lot of different forms.

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If you were going to be helping or listeners, what would you say is an area to at least start in when it comes to personal development for them to be focused on

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I think the thing that’s helped me the most is learning to take care of my own needs before building out really building a strong base of my own Income Building a Business, Surround something that I can control like in the past I had a business, around a lot, of client, work, and then when you have to rely.

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on clients, then it turns out. You don’t really have control over your business.

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So building a business that you can kind of integrate into your lifestyle and have control over and really give yourself a solid foundation on which to stand and so that you can kind of grow on your own terms, because i’ve found that i’ve the the large majority of bad business decisions, i’ve

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made are in moments where I need the money, in which, like I need to pay the bills or we need to invest into marketing or into some new technology, for the company, and then you make those decisions on money, and a lot of the times, hurting into relationships, with other businesses, whether it’s vendors, or

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distributors or clients, even picking up clients and then you don’t take the time to vet him, and then they end up being a bad client, or a bad partnership, and you’re.

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Not moving forward, anymore. You have to step backwards, or when you remove those clients or partnerships.

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So really being able to say that you’re comfortable in your own space. And then growing from there, has been able to be one of the biggest helps to me to actually getting a business off the ground and running in a direction, that I can control

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I love how you said, though that you realize where one of your problems resulted from and that was needing to make decisions, from a place of lack of money, or a lack of resources instead of it, being something else because a lot, of people don’t realize sometimes that that’s, what is actually in the driver, Seat and not the

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Business reasons to actually do something else. like you said, you may need to go with vendor, a instead of going with vendor.

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B, simply because vendor, A is giving you 5 cents less on the item and vendor.

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B. May be a little bit more, but they’re going to be better in the long term, and so sometimes we need to look at it simply while I need to buy a 1 million of these pieces.

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At 5 Cents Less. It adds up, you know, that’s $50,000 that you’re saving by going with vendor, a instead of under Being.

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But when we look though, at what we’re doing we need to also understand, like you, said what that means right.

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How to stay back and take another look at what it is that you’re doing, and understand, sometimes maybe money, can’t always be in the driver’s.

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Seat, it’s got to be in the driver’s seat, sometimes, but not always in the driver’s seat in terms of making some of those decisions, right

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Absolutely I mean, that’s that’s why there’s an accounting department.

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Right, like at the end of the day. Your business is either in the black or in the red,

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And I know a lot of people might look at you, know, some bigger corporations or big companies, and taking big investments.

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It’s like Amazon didn’t reach profitability for like 20 years, but yet they were one of the most valuable companies in the world.

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How is that? And that’s because their business got to a point where just existing had, value, like it was making money for a lot of people around them.

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Even though they weren’t profitable but when you’re a small business, that’s a hard thing to do, like let’s say you’re working a job, and you bring home.

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We’ll just say $5,000 a month. Right, $3,000 goes to your Personals and then you’re able to invest $2,000 a month, into your business, keep it.

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This is a reality, for a lot of people that are starting businesses are using their own personal money, because you’re, the only person that sees your vision and you got to get it to a point where you can make other people believe in it.

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Before you can take money from people. So if you’re sitting there and your business starts losing money all of a sudden you’re losing a $1,000 a month, out right there you, only have $1,000 to spend on your month, of business, because your business, just hit the red and negative $1,000, a month.

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And that’s 50% of your operating revenue right there.

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So paying attention, to the black and red is very important it’s like, how do you set up?

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Distribution deals, or how are you buying products?

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How are you hosting, your website, how are you doing and marketing and all of these things, having to balance it on those small budgets, is terribly difficult if you’re not paying attention, to the black or the red

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No question about it. You need to be paying attention to your numbers.

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You need to be paying attention to what your acquisition costs are right. Too.

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Many people have no clue, what their real numbers are they assume I’ve got $10,000 sitting in the bank that’s the number that I work with the problem is, though is that how do you know how much you can spend to get a customer how do you know how much you can give to a

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Partner, to say refer me new business. How much can you really work with in that regime?

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If you don’t really know your numbers, one of the things that you have to be looking at is you want to make sure that whatever your acquisition costs are to your lifetime value.

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Of your client, your ltv. You want to note that it’s going to be a third or less of the overall lifetime value of a client, your acquisition Cost if you’re more than that you may not be breaking even at the end of the Day because some clients may leave

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You earlier in terms of where you’re going to be.

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And so you really need to be paying careful attention to what it is that you’re doing in that regard and like you were saying, Greg, you really need to be clear black and red what are your name that you understand what those numbers are long term from what you’re doing so thank you for that

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So let’s jump into a different, piece, though we’re talking about the Adoptogenic Mushrooms, and I want to talk with you about the mushrooms and how That’s, part of your own Personal and Professional Development, In terms, of what you do so Let’s, Start with what the Heck are

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Adaptogenic Mushrooms

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Adaptogenic Mushrooms, first and foremost, are not psychedelic mushrooms, so that is the first question.

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I get every single time, I say that I’m into mushrooms.

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So there are tens of thousands of different species of mushrooms in the world.

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And it just so happens, with a small handful. Of them. Work.

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Very, very seamlessly and integrate very well with the human body, some of them relieve stress, some of them boost, your Immunity, one of my Favorites, cordyceps, helps you Balance, your energy, throughout the Day, and another, one of my Favorites, Lions, Main which has become very

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popular, it actually helps with your brain health I can speak from personal testament that it helps clear up a lot of brain fog, and that within a few days of taking it my digit memory, doubled like I went from I was kinda down I was in I was in the Spot, read a lot, of brain Fog when I started taking

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it so I was down to like 4 or 5 digits, where I could just glance at it, memorize it.

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Now I’m up to almost like 10 min and I was at that within like a week.

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It just really cleared it all out, and I mean that was a moment where I really believed in what I was doing, and what I had in my hands and I’ve just been running with it ever since because I really believe that I think that mushrooms really should be something that’s in Everybody’s

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Diet, maybe not every day, but fairly consistently, and so I’m just trying to spread the Word and Build really Good Products and to solve business. Around it.

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So I can get it into as many people, as hands, as I can

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For purposes, of Safety I’m just going to say check with your health, care, provider or other practitioner, to make sure that you do know exactly what it is that you are going to be doing talk with them, about the mushrooms, and go from there, and then talk, with greg to find out

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more, but Greg, so let me ask you in the digit memory going from 5 to 10, is certainly.

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An interesting increase by doing that. So talk with me, though and that’s one of the ways that you are doing your own personal development.

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By taking these mushrooms to help you with memory, recall and things along those lines, especially in the Anti-aging Aspect of what You’re Looking at?

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But how do you look at though the professional side of things?

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I mean you move from a marketing firm where you were before you moved into the mushrooms and you’ve been hoping people navigate, starting up and growing their own businesses.

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Tell me more about that and that pivot into the mushroom space

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So this definitely kind of pivots back to the point.

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I was making earlier about being able to stand on your own 2 feet.

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And the Setup deals, that work for you in your favor.

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When you’re starting your business, so I tried not to ever say anything’s luck, but a previous client of mine has been in the mushroom space for a long time.

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And it actually invited me to commit And it took me a couple of months to really jump in but I was able to a set up a partnership with her where basically, I’m doing a drop shipping i’ve set up basically a sales company and a brand and moving her

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Product, and so that’s how I started, and so I was able to start from a place where I needed very little overhead.

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Just a few $100, a month for my hosting, my website, on Shopify That’s like 50 to a $100 a month, a little bit more depending on how many sales are making so they take a piece, and then when I made the sales I was able to pay for the product, that I

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was selling to the consumers so this is a very special circumstance, a very rare circumstance.

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You can find yourself in business, but situations like this dude Z exist, because every business that’s out there that has a product one sales and if you’re able to go and help them grow their business, that helps but I digress a little, bit so the kind of the whole purpose of moving into this business was because I

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Had realized that relying on other people for my businesses, and my well being just was not going to create a stable a Financially Healthy lifestyle for the long run it was always Going to be probably Peaks, and Valleys We’re doing great We’re Not Doing great

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we’re doing great, not doing great. So I was really searching for a way to build, a business for myself, that I could grow.

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And even if it was slow, start, it would be steady, and it’s something that I could control.

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So that’s essentially what I did. Was take this product and turn it into something where I’m able to kind of control my destiny with it

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Thank you. And is really interesting. How you had that partner, or the client who became your partner.

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And you started drops shipping the mushrooms started growing your business, that way, and that’s actually a really great idea.

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By the way, for those of you that are listening. Think about it in this perspective, because you can be doing something extremely similar even if you’re not selling Mushrooms like Greg is but let’s say, though, that, you have an auto, body, shop, and across the street, or Nearby you have a

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Yogurt shop a frozen yogurt shop, right who don’t like FroYo, especially kids, right?

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You’ve got parents coming in with their kids, to get the oil change to get the Tire effect whatever it.

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Is that’s going on. If you send them across the street to the FroYo place think about what that’s going to be doing in terms of both of your profitability.

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Right. People are going to want to keep coming back to you, because you’re recognizing the fact that hey you’re giving the kids something to do and not driving the parents.

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Crazy, and the Frozen Yogurt Place across the street is gonna love it.

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Because they’re getting new customers, and they may give you the first one that somebody comes at no cost.

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Because again, what is their marketing, budget to get? A, new client, and if it’s let’s say $10 to get a client.

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But you are giving the parent and the kid, or maybe just the kid, a small froyo.

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which is maybe $3, $4,

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The Yogurt place is making $6 on the value. Cause.

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Now that the parents know about this place and parents are gonna most likely keep coming back.

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If the kid likes it, and so from an acquisition perspective, that is an excellent opportunity to take advantage.

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And think how you can use these ideas, and you want to always be singing outside the box, too.

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Many people are stuck. Oh, no, I gotta advertise here, advertise.

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There, you don’t want. There’s a lot of things.

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I keep telling my clients how to do and really keeping ear out for that idea in terms of what it is that we’re doing.

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But Greg let’s go back though to your story right.

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I mean you were doing, the marketing, business, you made a couple of pivots.

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There was some aspect of what it was that was going on in your life business personally, that made you decide this is direction. You wanted to go

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How long were you debating it in terms of that pivot, and what was the turning point that made you say this is direction that want to go in and kind of put the other side away

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So, basically heading in the quarantine, I had a few business partners at a whole team, and within a couple of months.

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That was halved. People had to go their own ways take care of themselves, you know everyone was kind of fighting, for what they needed for themselves at that time, and then by the end of the year I was down to just me and I mean, I’m not gonna lie that Hurt I didn’t know what direction was

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Up, there’s one conversation, I was having with a business partner who ended up moving away, and he was asking why everything was failing, and why what was going on and what’s going on I just literally looked at him and we were having a zoom call like this I was like you left me, like you just you

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Left me like what do you want for me. You can’t call me and yelling me about these things that are going on.

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When you left the Company. So it was a few situations, like that and it’s things where I don’t find any ill will in it it was just the truth of the situation, and we all had to kind of figure out what we were gonna do now and so

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It took a while, I think I was just kind of trying a few different opportunities.

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That came along and I don’t know the mushrooms.

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Just hit it within a few days of doing research I was very excited about it.

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And within 2 months of getting the first phone call I’d launched my website.

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So it was really just a situation of I honestly didn’t know what else to do.

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And this seems like a really good opportunity. I was very early in the industry.

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I was actually the first person to go public in some different forums that was selling Wholesale and Bulk of these mushrooms.

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I knew within time-four hours that I had something because I’ve made one post in a group Facebook and had over 60 Businesses inquire with Me within 24 h, saying that they’ve been looking for somebody like Me or They’d want to hear more so from that point

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On. I was just in, you know, like that was like I haven’t ever gotten feedback like that on any of my businesses that I’ve had since I was 20 you know it’s always been more of an uphill battle so I think what it really was was just that I didn’t give in the towel that

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I wanted to be operating a business. I was like, I know that I’m the type of person that needs to be operating a business.

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That’s the only way I’m going to be happy in my own life, and so the opportunity is kind, of knocking a few of them put me even farther behind.

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But I finally found the mushrooms, and they were kind of my saving grace in that way.

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It was a new wave of business to ride, and it’s been a fun ride so far

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Thank you for that story in being so candid with the situation, so Greg let me ask you what is it that makes you get out of bed in the morning.

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What is it that makes you tech

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Being better today, just growth, personal Development and professional I have, for instance, on my I have a Mirror, by my door and I have like, Dates written out and then basically what you Call, like an external sheet drawn on and I have different categories, that I need to hit every Day for my

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Own personal development, and that’s something that I started a few years back.

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And it’s just personal accountability. So up there, for example.

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So I have exercise, read, create so create something, whether I’m on a photograph, or working, on a website, or a marking piece.

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Or something meditate, and I’m blanking on the fifth.

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But so that gives you the idea. So that’s the first thing that I do.

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Is I check that, and I make sure that I’m filled in and caught up

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And I’ll say little goals with myself, like I want to achieve 80% of the access.

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Oh, my fifth one is make money. So I wanna I wanna make money every day.

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So that’s just an abundance mindset for those of you out there that have done any abundance practices.

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That is the bringing it into my life, every day, the thought and the intention to make money and bring money in so but that is the same thing with having meditate up there and read and create like these are all things that and exercise these are all things that are important to keeping me balanced so that

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I can continue to operate efficiently without hitting my burnouts, because that was something that I struggled with early on in my entrepreneurial life was getting burned out not being able to work for 2 3 weeks at a time sometime so doing these things.

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Are able to make me be efficient.

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And it’s great that you’ve got that on your mirror, like you said that it’s something that you’re looking at, and I too.

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I’m, a strong believer in the putting it out there, and having the visual in terms of what you’re doing, right here, at my desk I’ve got 2 vision born that have a lot of information on there and I created them several years ago and one thing I will say just in case you’re thinking about

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Doing, a vision board of your own. Be really really specific on what it is that you want from the vision board and why, I say, that is because put a picture of a particular hotel in Las, Vegas.

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On the Vision Board. I said, I wanted more, travel. That was an idea.

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I just want travel. It wasn’t something specificndra happening.

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Was the very next year. I was out 13 times in Las Vegas speaking on stages, not far away from that hotel.

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So I didn’t necessarily want only business travel. I wanted some of the personal travel, too, but really be specific in what it is that you’re trying to get from your vision boards the other thing, that you want to do also is and greg you alluded to the money and the Abundance mindset the other

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Thing you want to do and I’m just gonna touch on.

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This really quickly is put a dollar bill. In a whole bunch of different places in your house, so for me, I have a dollar bill sitting on my desk.

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I have a dollar bill on my mirror, in my room.

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I have a dollar bill on my breakfast. I have a dollar bill in the cabinets. I have a

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You realize you’re, not lacking, money, and so there’s an abundance of it.

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Instead of a lack of it, and so as one of those mind hacks, if you will that you can use to really start changing up the way that you look at

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Lockdown I did this before lockdown, and I thank God, wasn’t in the same position, but there’s a lot of issues, though that people do need to be looking at as it relates to that I won’t say that I wasn’t you know losing revenue right I think the

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Whole world lost, a significant amount.

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You know you’re over year on the month in terms of where I was that was a significant hit.

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But I was in a position to still cover the expenses.

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But you want to be thinking about what you can do in that. Regard.

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So if you were to look out 12 to 18 months. Where do you see yourself? Being right.

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And 12 to 18 months. I see myself really focusing on a couple of specific lines of mushroom products I’ve been working on I’ve been working on some new tropics, Products and I’ve been Seeing Tremendous results already that are really Pushing Me to just go Deeper

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Into working, with combining whatever ingredients I can find that work well together for specific reasons to help accomplish goals within people so like, for instance, this is my first new tropic product flow state and I’m already getting Terrific Feedback especially from people that have been daily Adder all

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Takers I’m actually been really surprised by

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A couple of my friends that I’ve been taking it, and have not needed their at all, and are actually beating their productivity, with my new tropic that I’ve been putting together based around mushrooms over there at all so this is literally some information That’s been coming back to me, over the last

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Couple of days and it’s really like I I can barely contain my excitement about it.

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I’ve been calling all my partners, everybody working with me, I mean, you gotta listen to this feedback.

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We’ve been getting so over the next few months.

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I’m gonna be working on that getting this up and ready for sale, which includes, not just having everything lab tested, so that everybody knows that it’s safe but also Working with a Couple of different professionals, that are Experts in all of these different plant medicines, that

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I’m including in some of these, and then also double blind studies, because I won’t sell something, unless I believe in it.

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And this is something that I’ve been focusing on that will separate me within the mushroom industry itself.

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Something unique, something that provides value something that solves a very specific problem for people.

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So this is why I’m going to be putting all of my for behind.

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And I would love to get this the next 12, to 18 months, to a point where basically this business is supporting me and I don’t need to be finding other alternative sources of revenue to keep my roof over my head so I’d love to be back at a point.

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Where my business is my soul focus in life.

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Alright.

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Sounds, good, and if and when you do need any help with the clinical testing definitely reach out, because I’ve got resources for that that we can certainly take advantage of really good, registered Labs and Testing places but greg, We’ve Spoken about the Mushrooms We’ve

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Spoken about what it is that you’re doing and what your goals are.

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How can people find out more about you, those that they can reach out. And if they want a get a hold of the product.

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Well, you can visit our website. It is www.divanamushrooms.com

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You can also find this on Instagram, or Facebook at divanamushrooms, and while you’re on our Website, if You’re a loyal Listener to this Podcast I would love you to enter into MOJO4LIFE, that’s MOJO4LIFE, all

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Thank you that is a really generous offer. Thank you so much for making that offer.

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So as we wrap up our conversations. You have any final thoughts that you wanted to share with our listeners.

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I would say.

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Just believe in yourself, believe in your purpose, If you don’t have your purpose yet, just believe that you’ll find it soon.

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The world keeps going the sun keeps rising every day, and you might as well wake up, and just make the most of it, whether you’re just starting out, again or you had a business that Exploded from quarantine and now might be Slowing Down, again Cause the Economies, are going back to

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our when you got to find a different object revenue stream again, whatever the situation just keep plugging, and you’ll turn it all around.

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You’ll build it, and your life will be what you want it to be

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Words, of gold. Thank you definitely pay attention to what it is that you are doing.

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We’ve seen during Lockdown as an example, companies like zoom exploded companies like Peloton, Exploded as People started Going back to the Office.

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We started having shifts and what We’re, doing the Kinds of Wardrobes that We’re going back into the Kinds of Activities, that We’re getting back to and so there’s a Lot of Changes Like Greg was Just Saying that you Do Need To Be Paying Attention to and One Thing, that

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you always regardless of pandemic or no pandemic recession or no recession, that you need to be paying attention to is innovation.

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You need to be paying attention to what is it that you’re doing in your own product, and your own business because if you’re not innovating and putting your own product out of business, somebody, else is we have seen that whether it’s, kodak, not listening when digital was coming out, whether it was blockbuster.

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No accepting the Founder from Netflix’s Idea, that was going to save them.

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The taxi market being upended by Uber, the list goes on and on there’s so many disruptors that come into these industries and change things up, and it’s really important that you do pay Attention, to what it is that you.

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Are doing and how you’re doing it. That’s going to really help you figure out this, is a path that is going to make the most sense.

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As you continue moving forward. There’s too many people out there that are simply willing to escape by on, what they did 30 years ago, and it’s not going to be the same thing tomorrow.

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If that’s what worked for you 30 years ago and so you do also need to be paying attention to your own personal development.

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As we started this conversation, you need to be paying attention to those things that are really going to be making that difference what is it that you’re doing that is going to really change the world in terms, of what you’re doing yourself.

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What is it that’s going to really be making the difference in terms of having you in the driver’s seat in terms of where you are?

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What is it that’s going to be making you, the expert that people are going to want to be looking at Greg mentioned earlier, in the show people like Gary Vaynerchuk and people along those lines, that have been Podcasting this whole time Gary Vee.

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Is great, and for those of you that have been following him.

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He he is certainly one of those minds, that a lot of entrepreneurs. Do.

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Listen to but he’s not perfect for everyone. You need to find your own mentor, your own guide, your own coach terms of looking at where you’re going to be going from there as well, it really is important, that you know exactly.

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What you’re doing. So that you are going to be in a better position.

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As you continue moving forward down the road, and so on. That note this has been another episode of MOJO: The Meaning of Life and Business.

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Once again, Greg, thank you so much for being my guest.

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Thank you so much for having me

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Until next time, absolutely and until next time. Here’s to your success.